An excellent insight into the relationship between the three people behind the Tooth and Claw podcast. Paul Kvinta sets us up with an extensive background to the podcast, before enjoying a trip to the zoo with the gang. The recipe for a successful podcast is here, although this chemistry might not be easy to recreate.

Twenty-six minutes into the episode, Mike and Jeff were hanging on every turn of Bye’s dire situation, as described to them by Wes Larson, a wildlife biologist who is also Jeff’s older brother. Each week for the past three years, Wes has shared a harrowing tale of human-wildlife conflict, peppered with scientific insights, conservation intel, and tips on surviving dustups with nature’s scariest predators—or, in this case, predators the color of a Barbie Dreamhouse.